Bach After Vivaldi
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Bach After Vivaldi Cello Concerto

In Defense of Bach |
By John Reese (June 2004) |
The Internet is filled with lengthy treatises by little-known scholars who enthusiastically question 'conventional' wisdom. Judging from these resources, there are a lot of people out there who are rigorously opposed to the accepted views of history, cosmology, physics, and even mathematics. Hundreds of people, for instance, believe they have found errors in Einstein's theories of relativity. These claims rarely hold up to any serious, or even casual, scrutiny. At Cambridge in the 1840, T.A. Walmisley lectured on Bach and taught his students to revere him above all other composers. (New Grove Dictionary of music and Musicians, Macmillan Publishers Limited, London,1989) But what makes his over-whelming superiority on all composers of his age, is the deep sensitive character who changes his most formalistic scores. (Vuillermoz Émile, Histoire de la musique, Fayard, 1973, première édition de 1949, p 140) Never a musical organisation stronger, more perfect than that of the Cantor of Leipzig has lived in the skull of a mortal (Rebatet, Lucien, Une histoire de la musique, Laffont, Paris, 1969.) To-day, everybody knows that his name is one of a musician that none overtakes, that none probably equals. (Aguettant, Louis - La musique de piano des origines à Ravel - Albin Michel, Paris, 1954 - p. 51) The greatest composers are severely criticized : none perhaps, except Bach, is spared. (Mauclair Camille, La religion de la musique, Librairie Fishbacher Paris 1908 environ, p. 104) That I admire and that always astonished me in Bach is exactly this musical feeling thick, concise and inexhaustible of all his masterpieces. (Buchet, Edmond, Connaissance de la musique, Editions Correa Paris 1942, p. 161). Fernandez then utterly fails to explain the relevancy of all these quotations, except to say: It appears that many recent Music History books, and even dictionaries, generally respecting the objectivity of scientific books introduce as Pavlovian reflex about Bach judgments of value. The terms sublime, genial, wonderful, marvellous are used even though they are generally not used for Vivaldi and most other composers. The idolatry about Bach since his revival cannot be contested. The exaggeration of these overstatements, sometimes through a religious vocabulary incites to be prudent and not believe these speeches. Fernandez does not explain why we should not believe them, other than his claim that the 'overstatements' are 'exaggerated'. Redundancy does not equal truth. Certainly, the quotations make use of a flowery, perhaps even 'religious' vocabu, but this is not the same as being exaggerated, unless one has read them with preconceived antipathy towards Bach. He then goes on to say: On the other hand, Vivaldi has never represented a myth, he is apparently known because his music is really appreciated, it is the reason why he represents - contrary to the opinion of most of commentators - a more solid and authentic value. No support is offered for this statement. We must simply take the author's word for it. |
Craftsmanship in Music Composition |
The elements that constitute good craftsmanship in a composer are impossible to define with complete objectivity, but most authorities would agree that a few skills are essential:
Finally, the sixth essential skill involves the flexibility of the composer. Does he try out a variety of different musical styles, or stick to the tried and true? This not only applies strictly to style, but to structure as well, which often goes hand-in-hand with a particular genre (for instance, the Sonata-Allegro form is strongly identified with the Viennese Classical school). |
Comparing Vivaldi and Bach |
Next we will attempt to evaluate the craftsmanship of the two composers by comparing similar compositions according to the 'apples to apples' philosophy. This comparison is not always fair, since Bach spent most of his time on sacred choral music, while Vivaldi devoted himself to concerti. However, a comparison of a vocal piece and a concerto movement from each composer should provide a clear enough picture. Vivaldi: |
Bach: |
In both cases, sustained notes in the voice are accompanied by rhythmic movement in the strings: |
Bach: |
In each of the pieces, an 'echo' effect is used between the voice and accompaniment: |
Bach: |
Here, the similarities end. The two pieces are of a very different character. Vivaldi's is raucous and fiery, while Bach's is serene and tranquil. Bach's instrumentation is more involved than Vivaldi's, which, in turn, results in a greater level of polyphony. |
A comparison between Bach's and Vivaldi's treatment of this particular phrase puts one of Fernandez' primary arguments -- that Vivaldi was emotive while Bach was purely mechanical -- into serious doubt. |
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The musical ideas of Bach tend to be more complex and thoughtful. Instead of being thrust upon the listener in quick succession, they unfold slowly and majestically. They are less predictable than Vivaldi's, both melodically and harmonically, but follow a logical progression that keeps the listener absorbed. Bach's setting contains two fairly complex themes derived from the motif, shown above, that introduces the voice part: |
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Consider the opening phrases in the voice part of each aria. Vivaldi's begins in B minor and ends a few measures later with an authentic cadence in the same key. Bach's phrase is more involved, ending in a half-cadence in D major. This means, essentially, that while Vivaldi has launched his piece with a complete (albeit brief) musical thought, Bach has merely laid the groundwork for what is to come. His music leaves the listener with a feeling of anticipation, which enables Bach to create more complex structures without becoming overly pedantic. |
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These two are rhythmic ideas, adaptable to a number of different harmonies. |
Is a snippet of music that hardly qualifies as a melody; it occurs near the end of some of the phrases as part of the cadence. It will be discussed at length in the next section. |
Not only is this section finely crafted, it is exquisitely poignant, belying once again the notion that Bach's music lacks expression. |
Musical Mannerisms and what They Can Teach Us |
Before going on to the concertos, let us step back to look at the work of the two composers from a larger perspective. Both Bach and Vivaldi had certain mannerisms that are evident in their music. There were certain chord progressions, certain melodic nuances, and other clearly identifiable compositional devices that each composer had the habit of using. Identifying and comparing these musical mannerisms may help further determine the difference in skill level between Bach and Vivaldi. As in any discipline, composers can develop both good and bad habits. If a composer habitually employs devices that are too obvious and rigid, then their repetitive use will make them seem cliched to the listener. However, if they are subtle and flexible, they are capable of generating a very rich tapestry of musical ideas. |
This device is useful because it creates a recognizable pattern that the listener can latch onto, and it greatly facilitates the use of sequences in the melody. The harmonic 'flow chart' used by most eighteenth century composers was built around this chord progression, as it is what the ear naturally anticipates. For this very reason, composers must take care not to overuse it. |
Bach used this device in his Qui Sedes as well, but his use was much subtler: |
Verbatim Imitation: Another commonly used device with Vivaldi is verbatim imitation - in other words, imitation at the unison. The listener essentially hears it as the same passage being repeated (and often, that's exactly what it is), although sometimes the two melodies overlap each other, as seen in another section of the Gloria: |
As mentioned previously, this practice arose naturally out of Vivaldi's frequent use of antiphonal relationships in his concertos. When he wrote for dual instruments (such as a concerto for two recorders) the two instruments often echoed each other with this type of imitation. |
(Vivaldi, Opus 4, No. Lord of the rings the battle for middle earth 2 mac. 1) |
Or, if you prefer to believe, as Fernandez does, that this is not an authentic Bach composition, the same technique is used for the subject in the fugue in A minor: |
Bach did something similar in the 'Qui sedes': |
This is a composite melody with a pedal tone on the B. The lower melody plays a sequence, but returns time and again to the point where it started. |
turns the concept upside-down, with the lower melody taking the pedal tone (on F#) and the upper moving away from it. |
The final syllable here should not be emphasized, but Bach kept it from dropping into a 'black hole' of sound by adding this little flourish. In the 'Coffee Cantata', he toyed with the weak syllables in a different way: |
Compare this to Vivaldi, whose treatment of strong and weak syllables is often simply - wrong. This is particularly true in the scaled-down reprise of the Gloria's opening chorus used for the setting of 'Quoniam tu solus Sanctus': |
Here, weak syllables fall on strong beats, while strong syllables fall on weak beats, particularly in the last two measures. The clumsiness of this section was obvious to me even as a high school student. |
A variation of this sequence returns later: |
..and finally: |
As you can see, Bach did not find it sufficient to vary the starting point for his circle-of-fifths progression (D minor in the first sequence, F Major in the second, and C minor in the third). He made use of invertable counterpoint between the first and second episodes, swapping the top and bottom lines, then revealed a completely new variation in the third. |
The chord sequence that leads up to what the listener expects to be the ending is slightly imperfect. The third of the C Major chord in second inversion, leading to the final authentic cadence, is doubled (A). After a deceptive cadence (B), the fingering is effectively realigned so that the chord sequence can be approached from a more advantageous vantage point. A second chord sequence, similar to the first, then makes an appearance, this time without the doubling of the third (C). The prelude can then be concluded in a harmonically more pleasing manner. (It may seem somewhat extreme for Bach to pay such close attention to tiny details, but he did it all the time. It was, to judge from his music, second nature to him. ) |
Use of the pedal tone ensures that the phrase is heard as an elaboration of the tonic, an extended dissonance that is resolved in the final chord. Bach was by no means the only composer to use this technique, but he employed it more often and more skillfully than did any other composer. |
The harmonies here become increasingly dissonant, going from a C major chord to a C dominant seventh, then an F major seventh, then a pair of diminished-seventh chords. |
Comparing Vivaldi and Bach, Part 2 |
It took some serious thought to decide which two instrumental pieces would best represent the efforts of Bach and Vivaldi and provide a fair basis of comparison. I finally decided on the opening movement of the first concerto from The Four Seasons, since it is one of Vivaldi's best-known works. By Fernandez' standards, this should therefore qualify it to be one of his highest-quality works as well (in fact, it is). I then chose a work of Bach that was similar in style and instrumentation, the first movement of the third Brandenburg Concerto. We will see how they compare. |
that recurs in variation towards the end of the movement. If we call the primary theme 'A' |
and the opening fanfare 'Z', the structure is as follows: |
The opening melody is derived from the first motif and employs Bach's old friend, the composite melody: |
Towards the end of the opening theme, a crucial difference between Bach and Vivaldi is revealed. |
While Vivaldi clearly tries to make the instruments 'sing' with hummable melodies, Bach's melodic ideas are defined by the instruments playing it. While the ear accepts the opening theme easily, this music defies any attempt to imitate it vocally. The reason for this is that Bach fully exploits the capabilities of the string instruments, particularly the ability to effortlessly perform large leaps upwards and downwards by moving the bow from one string to another. It gives his music a depth and freshness that Vivaldi's often lacks (Vivaldi did employ such techniques as well, in virtuoso solo passages, but seldom as part of a main theme). |
Something very interesting happens here. Starting from the second measure shown above, Bach introduces a composite melody with an implied pedal tone on the upper G, but in the next measure he 'flips' it so that the pedal tone moves down to the D and the mobile part of the composite melody is above it. To put it another way, the mobile part of the melody starts with each note on the downbeat, but then the notes shift over by a quarter beat and become syncopated. The casual listener, of course, would never catch such nuances, but is nevertheless delighted by the effect. |
but overall the piece is woven seamlessly together. |
Bach displays a classic use of the 'harmonic crescendo', reaching its peak late in the piece: |
Here, once again, we get the sense that Bach did not always consider music a vehicle for emotional expression, but believed - and proved - that it can exist for its own sake. The music is very mechanistic, very non-vocal, and yet it is brilliant in its developmental qualities and in its buildup and release of tension. This is absolute music in its purest form, a concept that Fernandez does not seem to grasp. |
Conclusions |
I believe I have demonstrated that Bach's music is more sophisticated than that of Vivaldi. This Fernandez does not question; however, he did argue that this sophistication gave Bach's music an intellectual dryness that made Vivaldi's refreshing by comparison. I couldn't disagree more. There is no argument sufficient to convince me that Bach is a lesser composer than Vivaldi because he demonstrated vastly greater artistry than his Italian colleague. For inventiveness, skill, and even emotional affect, Vivaldi's music cannot compare with that of Bach. The music of Bach goes far beyond the superficial conception of music as the aping of human emotions. It weaves a universe for itself, independent of the constraining social conventions of Bach's time. |
--John Reese Austin, TX (June 2004) |
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Bach’s fascination with Vivaldi resulted in him transcribing a total of 10 concertos, and their publication in late 1800s was a major contributing factor to the twentieth century resurgence in Vivaldi's popularity. Of the 7 Vivaldi concertos that Bach chose to rework for solo harpsichord, RV 230 is arguably the most famous and best loved. Johann Sebastian Bach Concerto for solo organ No. 2 in A minor, BWV 593 (BC J86) (after Vivaldi, Op.
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